Session Start: Mon Sep 30 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[06:45]<jamer> they might as well close school ....
[06:58]<+camerongray> lol, why?
[07:39]<@Mulreay> Is it because they don't explain themselves?
[07:42]<+camerongray> tehehe
[07:53]<PCdoc> lol
[07:54]<+camerongray> I'm ready to kill db :P
[07:54]<+camerongray> I mess up the nick autocomplete as per usual:
[07:54]<+camerongray> <camerongray> Hey DarkAceZ
[07:54]<+camerongray> <camerongray> DAH! db100547* Can't work this thing :P
[07:55]<+camerongray> Sure I didn't word that great, but the response shouldn't be:
[07:55]<+camerongray> <db100547> db has no problem using this chat site , others have problems though , some , particularly have big attitude issues
[07:59]<+camerongray> At least he did just appologise for that
[08:22]<jamer> Camerongray its either that or i put linux on his desktop
[08:22]<+camerongray> Why not Windows on his desktop? :P
[08:25]<+camerongray> If you need something light/easy to use then you could consider Chromium OS
[08:25]<+camerongray> The Raspberry Pi is very slow for browsing - Looking at 30seconds to render a large web page
[08:25]<jamer> Its him and viruses
[08:25]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
[08:25]<+camerongray> Chromium OS is pretty unbreakable
[08:25]<+camerongray> Or just something like Ubuntu/Mint that's easy to use
[08:26]<+camerongray> CPU will pretty much sit at 100% on the Pi when browing
[08:26]<jamer> He hates chrome XD
[08:27]<+camerongray> lol
[08:27]<+camerongray> Ubuntu/Mint then :P
[08:27]<+camerongray> Or stop him getting viruses :P
[08:27]<+camerongray> Adblock should help a lot
[08:27]<jamer> Ill see.. The last thing he got was a rootkit..
[08:27]<+camerongray> And Web of trust
[08:28]<jamer> Ive tried both..
[08:35]<jamer> Sometimes i just wonder about people
[08:36]<+camerongray> lol
[09:00]<jamer> So ill probably buy a wired controller
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[09:22]<jamer> And db says he owns a business...
[09:34]<PCdoc> yeah so what?? he might be an owner of a business. But a business is not always computers or laptops :P Can be a kid store.
[09:34]<PCdoc> or scrap dealer
[09:34]<PCdoc> etc
[09:38]<PCdoc> was a bad one ..
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[11:19]<+camerongray> jamer: When did he say that?
[11:20]<jamer> Hours ago taljing to mopar... Facking an invoice..
[11:21]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah...
[11:21]<jamer> Faking..
[11:21]<+camerongray> He doesn't say he owns a business though, just acts like he's very high up in one
[11:21]<+camerongray> But yeah, completely stupid!
[11:22]<jamer> It is....
[11:22]<jamer> Do something right the first time
[11:25]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:25]<+camerongray> I imagine DB is one of those people who worked thier way to a high up position a long time ago and now just plods along ordereding others what to do while feeling superior
[11:26]<+camerongray> I'd love to have a good job but would hate to get to a stage like that where all I do is manage others
[11:27]<+camerongray> Even the MD where I work now runs a pretty decent sized company yet even he still writes code and works on the PCs/servers when needed
[11:27]<+camerongray> In other news, I hate the government!
[11:27]<+camerongray> Just got paid today, how much tax?
[11:28]<+camerongray> £360.28!
[11:28]<+camerongray> So almost 20% tax!
[11:28]<+camerongray> Then take into account the extra 20% VAT on almost everything I will be spending the money on!
[11:31]<@Mulreay> I worked every bank holiday, every sat and sun in a month just to buy my TV.. I paid £820 tax on my earnigs then 20% VAT on the TV. My Mum and Dad used to have a shop in Manchester and paid over 26k a year in tax... we do get beant over and dry bummed in this country
[11:31]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:31]<+camerongray> At least I will get this tax back, it's just that HM Revenue are useless!
[11:32]<+camerongray> Like I have a tax-free allowance that I don't reach but they split it yearly so at the moment they tax me because I'm earning more than I think £700/mo or something but they won't tax me when I'm earning less than that which is most months
[11:33]<+camerongray> Well, I don't get the national insurance back, but I'll get £215.80 back
[11:33]<+camerongray> In a year or something mental!
[11:35]<@Mulreay> Yeah income tax is weird.. for the first £9000 or so you don't get taxed then you get taxed like 22% of your next earnings and if you go over something like £36,000 the tax for everything beyond 36k is like 45%
[11:35]<+camerongray> Yeah, that sounds like it
[11:36]<+camerongray> And I earn less than £9000 a year (Or at least a teeny bit over) but the way they split it means that I get taxed for anything over £750/mo and have to claim it back at the end of the year
[11:37]<@Mulreay> Yeah they don't like easy the HMRC
[11:39]<@Mulreay> On a plus side next year you can vote against Britain and have no HMRC... not sure what your leaders would do about tax but can't be worse. But I would take note of that. A country is not cheap to run especially when you lose 2 countries in the pool.
[11:40]<+camerongray> lol, but yeah, I'm not voiting that way :P
[11:40]<+camerongray> The whole campaign seems to be "We have oil" which can be translated to "We have a finite resource that gives us money!
[11:41]<@Mulreay> Glad to hear that, just because it would hurt everyone except the MP's
[11:45]<@Mulreay> I don't say this as derogatory but if Scotland leave they will seriously struggle in the future. And my thoughts are again no deresion you will become bankcrupt within 10 years. Then there will be another referandum to see if the Welsh and English would allow you back in to Britain.
[11:46]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[11:46]<+camerongray> The other thing that has put me off is my friend at uni that brings up independence at every opportunity!
[11:46]<@Mulreay> That's a little 'worst case senario' but it could screw us all
[11:47]<+camerongray> "You said something about Scotland, now I'll go on for an hour about independance"
[11:47]<+camerongray> Or "indie" as he calls it...
[11:48]<@Mulreay> Uninformed people or people who lack even a staple of sense will say things like that
[11:48]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:48]<+camerongray> "Is CompSoc doing anything for Burn's Night?" "Woo indie, woo vote yes, woo" is usually how it goes :P
[11:49]<+camerongray> And he's one of those people that types in an accent
[11:50]<+camerongray> Not like accidentally use certain words, but like full on, typing in an accent :P
[11:50]<@Mulreay> As an Englishman I say this proudly. I want Scotland to stay in Britain not because of some sense of control as we don't have that but as we have been together for over a thousand years and yes we joke about each other but we are still the small Island that shaped a world..
[11:50]<+camerongray> Like I would type "No I don't" whereas he will seriously type "Naw ah dinnae"
[11:51]<+camerongray> Yeah, you're one of those good English people ;P
[11:51]<@Mulreay> Typing in accent is a little weird
[11:51]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[11:52]<+camerongray> Now I'll list the subject of his latest 10 tweets - This will be fun :P
[11:52]<@Mulreay> You don't have to
[11:53]<+camerongray> hehe, it's amusing :P
[11:53]<@Mulreay> OK cool as there are no twitter privacy notices saying there not public
[11:54]<+camerongray> Retweet about independence (x3), something about uni, gay rights, gay rights and independence in one tweet, photo, some parody political thing, something about scotland's national animal
[11:54]<+camerongray> Oh, and something about windows phone
[11:54]<@Mulreay> OK go for it
[11:55]<+camerongray> lol, just did :P
[11:55]<@Mulreay> That's it?
[11:55]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[11:55]<+camerongray> Until he gets in an argument with someone :P
[11:55]<+camerongray> Those can go on all day!
[11:56]<@Mulreay> What is the gay rights stuff for?
[11:56]<+camerongray> He tweets about that constantly too
[11:56]<+camerongray> And somehow combines that and independence at the same time
[11:56]<@Mulreay> For or against?
[11:56]<+camerongray> For
[11:56]<+camerongray> As am I
[11:56]<@Mulreay> k cool
[11:56]<@Mulreay> yeah me too
[11:56]<+camerongray> But I don't tweet constantly :P
[11:56]<@Mulreay> no me neither
[11:57]<+camerongray> Were you thinking there "If he says against *punches hand*" :P
[11:57]<@Mulreay> Scotland national animal?
[11:57]<+camerongray> Unicorn :P
[11:57]<+camerongray> Which is pretty amusing
[11:57]<@Mulreay> I would have found out his name and trolled him to death if he was against camerongray
[11:58]<+camerongray> haha
[11:58]<@Mulreay> gay rights that is
[11:58]<+camerongray> Hmm, that may actually explain the unicorn statue down the road from me :P
[11:59]<@Mulreay> I think he's into hogwarts too much if he thinks Unicorns are your animal.. If you have read/watched you would know
[12:00]<@Mulreay> Harry Potter that is
[12:00]<+camerongray> lol
[12:00]<+camerongray> As far as I'm aware though it actually is
[12:01]<@Mulreay> Hogwarts in in Scotland and the 'Boy who lived' is English so how much does he need to know about unity?
[12:01]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[12:01]<@Mulreay> I don't like your friend
[12:01]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, that's the other thing he does - He scores out "british" on forms and writes "Scottish"
[12:01]<+camerongray> hehe
[12:02]<@Mulreay> sigh
[12:02]<+camerongray> If asked I'd say "Scottish" and if there was an option on a form I would pick it, but that's because it's more specific, I wouldn't go out of my way to change it!
[12:07]<+camerongray> brb, just noticed I need a ring binder
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[12:40]<+camerongray> Back
[12:47]<@Mulreay> You cannot win with some people and lucky for us we are generally the smatter people that don't listen to village idiots and just epic stupid. Let him have is moment and I guarentee in a few years he will be a hero to himself. Constantly looking to the 'better future' whilst infact creating there own little world that nobody even thinks about. (You can tell him from an Englishman) You are
[12:47]<@Mulreay> not in this for any gain for people, you are in it to make a noise. The reason you make this noise is because you have nothing better to add to your world. I like people like you because you tried to be Hitler and failed. That means we're all safe from fucktards like you.
[12:49]<@Mulreay> Wow that got fragmented
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> I do like that
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> "I'm not british because I was born on this slightly different part of the island"
[12:52]<@Mulreay> Yeah makes no sense
[12:52]<@Mulreay> I'm going for a chippy brb
[12:58]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[13:31]<@Mulreay> Wow my housemate just lost the plot and smashed his remote control over the coffee table.. Not telling me wht just says he's sick of adverts on TV
[13:32]<@Mulreay> He's now banging around the house
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> Didn't you punch your laptop as well as slash the screen with a sword?
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> I mean, just saying maybe he ought to be allowed to smash things too
[13:33]<@Mulreay> My housemate wasn't sat there next to me when I did it
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> oh fair enough lol
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> especially the sword one that would have been embarassing
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> thankfully no witnesses... "That happened when I fought off a skilled ninja"
[13:35]<@Mulreay> Yeah, I did them in the privacy of my little bedroom/world he just lost it in the living room... I just said 'OK I need to go to work online, I'll speak later.. then he started banging doors and stuff downstairs whilst I came to my room
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> well adverts are annoying
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> heh
[13:38]<@Mulreay> It creats a problem.. ironically I fear anger but react with more anger.. if someone scares me I challenge them.. if he keeps banging about I will lose my temper through fear and confront him.
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[13:39]<@BC_Programming> Calum
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> I have some awful news man... just terrible news
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> apparently db doesn't like you because you "insult him"
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> Just thought I'd let you know. We were all crestfallen
[13:39]<@Mulreay> I for one lost sleep
[13:40]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> yes we had to figure out how to move on
[13:40]<@Calum> I'm sorry to have fallen short of your high expectations, I realise I've let you all down. Most of all, I've let myself down.
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> I was a bit disappointed that somehow I wasn't on his list of people that insult him
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> I guess he doesn't take being compared to a pidgeon in intellectual capabilities as a insult
[13:40]<@Calum> Heh yeah
[13:40]<+camerongray> I can't actually think of the last time Calum spoke to db!
[13:41]<@Calum> Thing is, I genuinely don't remember ever speaking to him
[13:41]<@Calum> Exactly
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[13:41]<@Mulreay> Who was the list BC_Programming?
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> Calum, "mulray" and camerongray
[13:41]<+camerongray> And BTW, you know how he said that we all 'insulted' him a long time ago?
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> don't know who mulray is
[13:41]<@Calum> Not Calum....Callum
[13:41]<@Mulreay> Well I'm safe then
[13:41]<+camerongray> lol
[13:41]<+camerongray> Long ago being two weeks or so
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> oh
[13:42]<@Mulreay> All the British guys RACIST barsteward
[13:42]<@Calum> indeed
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> BRB IMPORTANT CLIENT CALL
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> Ok done also just got back from Paris
[13:43]<@Mulreay> Whio cares of a no mark like db
[13:43]<@Calum> How many sites have you had contact with today BC? Thousands I assume
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> yes and we run ten million inspirons
[13:43]<+camerongray> Come to think of it, I found that discussion where DB claimed that FX CPUs are better for a gaming PC than an i5
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> guitar_man wins the award for insults though.. the stuff cam get's in a PM is outright abusive
[13:44]<+camerongray> He'll 'punch my nose'
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> I mean he doesn't win the award for good insults
[13:44]<WonderWoman> Hey.
[13:44]<+camerongray> Hey WonderWoman!
[13:45]<WonderWoman> Hey Cameron. :D
[13:45]<@BC_Programming> I'd probably copy-pasta that paragraph where the guy says he's from the navy seals and is an expert in gorilla warfare
[13:45]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, here's the log about the CPU thing: https://mega.co.nz/#!xIxSjaLC!MltXviuoDcrnyLCbA18ojlbKO59AuJrdoeqaMhkM0Rg
[13:45]<@Calum> I love how camerongray always sends me logs of all the conversations, I do enjoy reading them. I also love how he's so incredibly excited to see me or Cassie, every single time.
[13:45]<@Mulreay> WonderWoman are you flying your invisible plane or just walking?
[13:45]<+camerongray> Yep, discovered how to export to CSV from my log database :D
[13:45]<WonderWoman> Just walking! Am being ghetto Wonderwoman!!
[13:46]<+camerongray> Calum should find that log amusing/infuriating
[13:46]<+camerongray> Also notice how he butted in and kept parroting what I had just said
[13:47]<@Calum> apparently I just downloaded that 39kb file at 38.3MB/sec, I like how accurate it is over a millisecond long transfer...
[13:47]<+camerongray> haha!
[13:47]<+camerongray> He starts on row 171
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> Quantos called db Cooper?
[13:48]<+camerongray> Yeah, they do that for some reason
[13:48]<jamer> Bc still does
[13:49]<@Calum> I think you sent me that log before cameron, I seem to remember it
[13:49]<+camerongray> Ahh cool
[13:49]<+camerongray> Might have yeah
[13:49]<@Calum> it was incredibly infuriating
[13:49]<@Calum> he contradicts himself several times, too
[13:49]<@BC_Programming> guitar_man is better for a laugh
[13:49]<+camerongray> yeah
[13:49]<@BC_Programming> with gm it's like he's grasping at the concept of communication but can't quite do it
[13:50]<@Calum> I need to spend more time in CH
[13:50]<jamer> Wait till a troll comes in and trolls db XD
[13:50]<+camerongray> YES
[13:50]<+camerongray> You. Right now. Go to CH :P
[13:50]<@Mulreay> gm? I thought we worked out this stupidity
[13:50]<+camerongray> He doesn't come here because you 'insult' him, so you must go to him :P
[13:50]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: you know who I mean
[13:50]<@BC_Programming> if it was you it would have to be GM right?
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> then again GM could mean General Motors... oh the confusion
[13:51]<@Mulreay> lol I can live with that BC_Programming
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> ok General Motors
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> dammit see
[13:51]<+camerongray> hahaha
[13:52]<@Mulreay> Too be fair I have always seen GM as 'Greater manchester'
[13:53]<+camerongray> I completely exploded at DB yesterday
[13:53]<+camerongray> Like went completely mental
[13:53]<@Calum> why?
[13:53]<@BC_Programming> for you exploding means "db you are dumb"
[13:53]<@Mulreay> On him or at him?
[13:53]<+camerongray> ahha
[13:53]<+camerongray> Someone was asking for a lightweight linux distro for a P4, so of course I recommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[13:54]<+camerongray> DB keeps going on that they are "cut down" and don't include all the apps
[13:54]<@BC_Programming> oooh and then he said something else
[13:54]<+camerongray> And that the person should install Ubuntu and just 'remove' unity
[13:54]<@BC_Programming> Like he knows a damned thing about Linux
[13:54]<@Calum> isn't that the point...that they're cut down...to be, you know, lightweight?
[13:54]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:54]<@Calum> although not cut down in that sense I guess
[13:54]<+camerongray> So they would remove unity and have to replace it with something like XFCE or LXDE making ya' know, Xubutnu and Lubuntu
[13:54]<@Calum> heh
[13:55]<+camerongray> And he just starts off "Sorry, incorrect"
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> VectorLinux :P
[13:55]<+camerongray> "You are wrong"
[13:55]<@Mulreay> My kerbal video went up ages ago.. hahahahahahaha sorry I found it funny.. will do another later
[13:55]<+camerongray> So I went completely ape at him
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> Basically he did the same thing as he did with me, instead of actually SHOWING how I was supposedly wrong, he just asserted it
[13:56]<+camerongray> According to him if you remove unity you fall back to 'Ubuntu 10.04' a.k.a GNOME, which hasn't been the case for years!
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> there is a good reason they don't really allow Linux discussion in that channel
[13:56]<+camerongray> Then amusingly tells them to install Ubuntu 12.x, you know, when 13.04 is out now with 13.10 almost released
[13:56]<+camerongray> I'll get the log, but it's not pretty :P
[13:57]<+camerongray> It takes a lot to get me angry, but boy did he make me mad
[13:57]<@Calum> "boy did he make me mad" only you could say that cameron!
[13:57]<@Calum> I know what you mean though, blatant stupidity that could be easily disproved with a 5 second google
[13:58]<@Calum> it is ridiculous
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> "I was quite cross"
[13:58]<@Calum> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/7/1/9/enhanced-buzz-wide-13765-1372685755-18.jpg
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> I also liked in our little "Windows workspace" bit where he actually gave me a link that "proved him right" that said exactly what I was already saying all along
[13:58]<+camerongray> I translated that for you non-scots :P
[13:59]<+camerongray> Otherwise it would have been "He made me pure heavy mental like"
[13:59]<@Calum> hehe
[13:59]<WonderWoman> lol
[14:00]<@BC_Programming> guitar_man falling off a lawnmower and running himself over wouldn't be a bad event
[14:03]<+camerongray> Here we go: https://mega.co.nz/#!YVwljILZ!RWjldjr5kXXeQhRIVmlSpHaKuCwBzfUQ4-Gu9yTIiME
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> excellent, my diet of pizza, crisps, and pop has had the intended effect of making my ribs no longer visible
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[14:06]<+camerongray> hehe, doesn't work for me :P
[14:06]<@Calum> only got 21.5MB/sec on that one, although 22KB doesn't give it much chance to stretch its legs I guess....
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: you need to try harder :P
[14:07]<@Calum> hah, that is in fact you getting "a bit cross" with him
[14:07]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[14:08]<+camerongray> I don't mind being corrected, but when he's the person that's wrong it drives me mad
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> I've been exposed to enough british shorthand/slang that I once heard a phillips head described as a "cross screwdriver" and I wondered how a screwdriver get's cross
[14:08]<@Calum> Having lots of PCs doesn't make an AMD CPU better than the Intel one unless your organisation builds and tests gaming PCs
[14:08]<@Calum> like it
[14:08]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:08]<@Calum> Opinion and evidence aren't the same thing
[14:08]<+camerongray> hahaha
[14:09]<@Calum> you remind me of a guy I used to work with
[14:09]<+camerongray> uh oh :P
[14:09]<+camerongray> The guy you hated? :P
[14:09]<@Calum> who once said to a customer something like "you go away and look that up then, and when you find out that you are in fact wrong, call me back and apologise" then hung up on the guy
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:09]<@Calum> and also "you do that, but you'll still be wrong"
[14:10]<@Calum> "you want to speak to the manager? I am the manager. Send in a complaint? Sure, you do that. I'll read it and deal with it appropriately. After all, you would be complaining about me....*long pause*...to me."
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> the worst part of designing the updater and database and so forth for this work thing is that now mine looks worse
[14:11]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[14:12]<@BC_Programming> the one I made for work supports multiple versions and has the ability to have dev and beta build marked, as well as having customized builds exclusive to a customer, and it all filters properly based on the site they are at and whether beta and dev builds should apply... it's pretty insane
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[14:14]<@BC_Programming> and it's smart and updates automatically and is able to retrieve the installed version from the registry to see if the new version is in fact newer, and before it runs the installer it downloads it will look in the install folder for that program and see if any of the executables within are running, and if so it terminates them, but it saves their command line, and then it runs the installer
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> and afterwards it re-launches the same executables with the same command lines
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> and I changed it to use the standard themed progressbars too, wweeee http://bc-programming.com/misc/other/updaterx.png
[14:15]<+camerongray> sweet!
[14:15]<@Calum> nice
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> just ignore how the title bar and the large progress bar seem to disagree on the current progress
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> now I officially have no open Work Orders :P
[14:20]<Tux2> :)
[14:21]<Tux2> I just re-coded one of my first plugins: weatherRestrictions to be 100% more efficient.
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> cool, I remember back in the day when you just started that plugin in 1.5 beta :D
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> because it was constantly raining on the server lol
[14:22]<Tux2> lol, right? I abandoned it because of some race conditions I couldn't figure out, and I just now figured out a better way of doing things
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> I bought a second minecraft account for GriefPrevention, makes testing and fixing siege stuff SOOO much easier
[14:24]<Tux2> Cool :)
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> and I never actually got to see the revert feature, which resets all the blocks the attacker breaks when the siege is over, which is cooler than I thought
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> I just implemented it and it sorta worked somehow I guess
[14:25]<Tux2> lol, nice
[14:25]<@Calum> I'm off for tonight....catch you guys later, and tell db to dry his eyes, next time I might actually insult him for real
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[15:30]<@Mulreay> Kerbel video is up
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[15:54]<@Mulreay> Tanya has gender issues
[16:00]<Kevin> She had to go down to the Booty Tree to get a new pair of heels, they're having a sale.
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[16:08]<+camerongray> Mulreay: Just wait, you're on his side :P
[16:08]<+camerongray> He's probably a really nice guy, until you get on his bad side
[16:08]<@Mulreay> I'm baiting him
[16:08]<+camerongray> Aww
[16:11]<@Mulreay> now to attack db
[16:12]<+camerongray> Oh god
[16:12]<+camerongray> He'll link you to me :P
[16:12]<+camerongray> I know
[16:12]<+camerongray> Say that you heard he had badmouthed you and you wanted to know why
[16:13]<+camerongray> Be real nice, make him feel like an idiot for thinking you are bad :P
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> what is all this then
[16:14]<+camerongray> Mulreay is in CH... :P
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> o
[16:15]<@Mulreay> Which will never end good
[16:15]<@Mulreay> I stopped
[16:21]<+camerongray> Are you in PM with him>
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> lol http://i.imgur.com/SHmzWwx.jpg
[16:22]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[16:22]<@Mulreay> I'm in PM with db
[16:23]<@Mulreay> and he seams OK
[16:24]<+camerongray> lol, they seem okay at first yeah :P
[16:24]<+camerongray> I'd be interested to know where you "insulted" him :P
[16:24]<@Mulreay> <db100547> I think you being a bit paranoid . i have no reason to have any views on you or anything you say or have said , so far
[16:24]<@Mulreay> <Mulreay> Then my bad i apologise
[16:24]<@Mulreay> <db100547> np. always best to discuss an issue if you feel there is a need .
[16:25]<+camerongray> Hmm, then why did he PM jacky your name :P
[16:27]<@Mulreay> I know camerongray I'm just making sure all the comments are here
[16:27]<+camerongray> Ahh!
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> <db100547> i stopped coming cos of some guys who frequent this channel , but thought i'd see what it was doing now .
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> <@jacky> who are "some guys" ?
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> <db100547> camerongray, mulray and callum .
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> for the record :P
[16:28]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> ah ok solly
[16:28]<@Mulreay> <Mulreay> I'm tired of cameron and the rest they seem to go on and on
[16:28]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> yeah well , i gotta admire cameron's knowledge , is just so sad about his total lack of people skills
[16:28]<@Mulreay> <Mulreay> he has mega computer skills though
[16:28]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> he has caused more than his fair share of the shit around here
[16:28]<@BC_Programming> bahaha
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> I like how he bought it right away
[16:29]<+camerongray> lol!
[16:29]<@Mulreay> that says it all camerongray
[16:29]<+camerongray> Make me sound good :P
[16:29]<+camerongray> I have people skills :P
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> is "people skills" when you believe complete nonsense by "having faith"?
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> oh
[16:30]<+camerongray> Ask him what I did wrong
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> that didn't come out right lol...
[16:30]<+camerongray> See if he brings up DA
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> Also: is telling people they are A**holes and they should shut the *uck up or you'll punch them in the face 'people skills'?
[16:30]<@Mulreay> I Will test him?
[16:30]<+camerongray> Could do I suppose
[16:30]<+camerongray> I know
[16:31]<@BC_Programming> I love how he bought it immediately
[16:31]<+camerongray> If he asks say you are my friend and had heard me talking about his abuse, and you want to see why he does it :P
[16:33]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/Z3oRepa.png?2
[16:37]<@Mulreay> He's advising me about programming
[16:37]<@BC_Programming> haha
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> lol a recruiter just phoned for me
[16:40]<@Mulreay> OK we have a MASSIVE problem
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> no I just said I had a job already no big deal
[16:41]<@Mulreay> NO THIS IS BAD]
[16:41]<@BC_Programming> well spit it out
[16:41]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> Mulreay: DO YOU MIND PLEASE TELLING ME YOUR AGE?
[16:41]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> ooops sorry
[16:41]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> caps , very bad
[16:41]<@Mulreay> <Mulreay> 34
[16:41]<@Mulreay> <Mulreay> why?
[16:41]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> well was more interested so I could align my answers to your age
[16:41]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> if you were 12 , my answers would be different
[16:41]<@Mulreay> <guitar_man> ok you have been learning c , c+ , c++ etc?
[16:42]<@BC_Programming> haha
[16:42]<@BC_Programming> C+ just making stuff up there
[16:45]<@Mulreay> I should run away
[16:46]<@Mulreay> Running
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[16:46]<@BC_Programming> uh?
[16:46]<@BC_Programming> where is the massive problem I wonder
[17:00]<+camerongray> lol
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[17:27]<jamer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zndc2yHur00&feature=player_detailpage#t=519
[17:28]<@BC_Programming> The only thing I don't like about Terraria is Steam
[17:28]<@BC_Programming> I hated Steam when it was first released and I still hate it
[17:39]<Immental1200> What do you not like about steam?
[17:41]<@BC_Programming> First, you need to have it running before running any steam-related game. Second, it's overlay telling me that my friends are playing a game. I don't give a shit, Third, yet ANOTHER "community" does every single online thing need it's own "community"?
[17:41]<@BC_Programming> You'll note my issues have nothing to do with anything about DRM or any of that, just that it does so in a very intrusive manner
[17:42]<Immental1200> Hm
[17:42]<Immental1200> I don't mind the pop ups
[17:42]<Immental1200> I have like 5 friends
[17:42]<Immental1200> And mines always in offline mode and open from pc boot
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[17:48]<@BC_Programming> and there is one more reason to dislike steam
[17:48]<Immental1200> Oh?
[17:48]<@BC_Programming> started that conversion thing and it destroyed my connection
[17:49]<Immental1200> Saved disk space though
[17:49]<@BC_Programming> no it didn't
[17:49]<Immental1200> Ok... My phone is randomly calling people
[17:49]<@BC_Programming> it got to a grand total of 0% before it failed as well
[17:50]<Immental1200> Used to just be while on Felix. But it's not doing it with random apps.
[17:50]<@BC_Programming> Oh well as long as it works for Terraria I'm good
[17:50]<@BC_Programming> and if it doesn't I guess I'll just pirate 1.2 at some point
[17:50]<Immental1200> I'm not touching the screen and bam, persons face and an end call button
[17:50]<@BC_Programming> haha
[17:50]<Immental1200> It's doing my head in
[17:51]<Immental1200> I can't be bothered to reset it
[17:51]<@BC_Programming> oh you run Minecraft servers rite?
[17:51]<Immental1200> Mmhm
[17:52]<@BC_Programming> you use any land claim plugins?
[17:52]<Immental1200> I use towny
[17:52]<Immental1200> I'm going to be trying residents soon
[17:52]<@BC_Programming> awww
[17:52]<@BC_Programming> I work on GriefPrevention :P
[17:52]<Immental1200> Never heard of it
[17:53]<@BC_Programming> http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/grief-prevention/
[17:53]<@BC_Programming> it's pretty old which is the only excuse I can think of for some of the crap in the source
[17:55]<Immental1200> How does a player claim land
[17:55]<@BC_Programming> golden shovel
[17:55]<@BC_Programming> right click one side and then right click the other
[17:55]<Immental1200> You mean left?
[17:55]<@BC_Programming> (well golden shovel by default anyway)
[17:55]<@BC_Programming> no right
[17:55]<Immental1200> Hm
[17:55]<Immental1200> And how does it name zones
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> zones?
[17:56]<Immental1200> Well, protected regions / areas
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> they don't have names, they simply belong to a player
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> I think GriefPreventionFlags adds names but I'm not sure
[17:56]<Immental1200> Is it compatible with worldguard?
[17:56]<@BC_Programming> apparently people are using it with WorldGuard
[17:57]<Immental1200> Or does it have to be used standalone
[17:57]<Immental1200> Hm.
[17:57]<Immental1200> I'll try out residents and get back to you :P
[17:59]<@BC_Programming> personally I like the sieges :P you can siege another player if it's enabled and break certain blocks within their claim, if you kill them you get everything they are carrying and during the siege they cannot put stuff in chests or drop stuff, if they kill you same deal. Obviously only something really useful on a PvP server
[17:59]<Immental1200> Towny does that
[17:59]<@BC_Programming> I didn't like how it was originally since it basically let people grief your base by just sieging you so I made it so all the blocks that get broken get reset when the siege is over
[18:00]<Immental1200> Nations and towns can go to war with each other
[18:00]<Immental1200> You can then take over land and plots. Plus PvP is turned on everywhere and stuff.
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